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Thursday, May 26, 2005

Bo Bice Robbed, Carrie pre-selected? Another American Idol Scandal? 

Were the American Idol results leaked ahead of time? That's what folks think on the Bo Bice message board on BiceSquad.com. A Bo Bice supporter posted a link that was allegedly published on the online edition of the UK news outlet "The Independent." The mystery link dated May 22, 2005, days before Fox unveiled Carrie Underwood as the winner, identifies Carrie as the new American Idol:

Britain's stars shine for Europe
By Jason Nisse
22 May 2005

Ten British-based business people have been named among the 25 Stars of Europe by American magazine BusinessWeek. However, only five of them are actually British, showing the international nature of the UK business community.

Among the more predictable names in the list are Sir Terry Leahy, chief executive of Tesco; BT boss Ben Verwaayen; and Nigel Newton, who signed JK Rowling for Bloomsbury Publishing. More surprising are Andrew Black and Ed Wray, the co-founders of Betfair.com; and Simon Fuller, the pop impresario whose American Idol TV competition was won this year by Carrie Underwood.


Another Bo fan, on the same message board, stated:

"I read about the article on another website last night. Someone wrote the paper and asked how they could print that when the winner had not been determined yet. The paper wrote her back and said they were sorry and the story would be retracted and that they had no inside information. Another editor on another paper stated that they may have thought Carrie was the winner because her song is first on the the CD and all the other finalist were listed in the order they left."


The link to The Independent does not show the reported text, and reads "page not found." But, the original text can still be viewed via Google's "cache" and the headline is still in the archives of the Europe Business Post. Was Bo's near miss rap sheet too much to let him win? Who knows. Even if The Independent's story was real and innocent, it'll certainly fuel American Idol conspiracy theorists who've long suspected some funny business with the show's voting.

Comments:
The only reason i watched Idol every week was Bo. I had predicted he would be in the final two and then ultimately win in the end. Why not, he has the best voice of all the contestants, he has astonishing stage presence. Hes just so enjoyable to watch and listen to week after week. I was so disappointed when Seacrest said Carrie had won. You have a girl who obviously is more country than anything else, who stands there like a statue as she sings with no emotion..i cant understand Americans choice with her. She really belongs on that Leanne Rimes show where they vote for the next country performer. I predict though that Bo will ultimately sell more CDs than Carrie will. In the end, its all around talent that will win out and that makes Bo the winner hands down!
 
i'll second that! mark my words... we'll be seeing and hearing more from bo in the next few years than we will from carrie. he's a true star!
 
I also think that Bo should have WON!! He is so much more talented than Carrie. I loved to watch him on that stage. He has such a commanding presence. I am sure that he will make a lot of albums and will be around long after Carrie's star burns out.
 
I feel Carrie was prechosen. The past several weeks the judges kept telling her she could do better while Bo was good all the time. He is truly the better performer and I hope he goes far. I would buy a CD and go see him and I am 54 years old and love him!!!!
 
In my opinion Bo out sung Carrie every week. I think that because of his drug arrests that just came out American Idol decided to railroad him. He deserved to win, Carrie SURELY DIDN"T. I hope he out sells her!!!
 
I TOTALLY agree that Bo was robbed by not winning American Idol. I watched the show mainly for him and truly felt he had the better voice and stage presence. This country is way too conservative and I think that's why Carrie won, no one wants to step out of the box and give Rock and Roll another chance (and I'm not really a rock and roll fan). People magazine predicted that Carrie would win the whole thing months and months ago so fixed...one has to wonder? But I also predict that Bo will way out sell Carrie in CDs and concerts, besides just think Ruben who??
 
Nah, dude. YOu know what's up? It doesn't matter who wins Am. Idol. The only thing that Carrie gets that the others didn't is the title. Bo is signing to Clive Davis's label. No problem. Scott Savol has had offers, Baby Solomon was incredible with Billy Preston, who actually REQUESTED she sing with him. So you know she's going far. So was Bo Bice robbed? Not by a LONG shot. He'll do just fine for himeself. So will all the top 12. In fact, so will the losers from the first two shows, if they know how to play their cards right. Case in point: William Hung. Nuff said, mate.
 
I cant believe that Bo did not win.He definitely outsung carrie almost every week.What i want to know is why on tuesday night did carrie not sing the same song as Bo?They were to sing two originals and bo sang long road home first then he sang the song that carrie sung and yet carrie sang a totally different song at the end?I thought she was supposed to sing the same song as BO?Why did she get to pick another song?Did they already know that she had won?She ended up singing the song she will be releasing?Kinda makes you wonder?Either way Bo is remarkable and I believe he will completely outsell carrie when it comes to cds.Why cant we have a rocker american idol instead of another pop princess?
 
Carrie won and deserved it. Bo liked to swing his hair around too much. Carrie had an authentic voice. Bo's voice was overlooked mostly because of his "dance routine."

So basically, the right person won!
 
bo should have won. it will be
tha same as clay and rubin you hear
alot more from clay as you will
with bo
 
Bo will be better off by NOT winning - he won't be tied down to all of the contract limitations that the winner has to deal with. This will make it easier for Bo to be Bo, rather than the "American Idol". Congrats, Mr. Bice - you've truly hit the "Big Time"!
 
This is the deal: It is no secret that the American Idol results are not fair. They weren't fair in Season 2, and they weren't fair this season. I love Bo. He was clearly the stand out right from the beginning of the season. Carrie is good, but she can't hold a candle to him, and it was obvious by the crowd reaction -- or lack of one -- when she won. A local DJ from one of the radios stations here was at the finale and he said that the crowd was overwhelmingly in support of Bo. Their is no WAY you can tell me she won fair and square. I don't buy it. I think that she will fit into their little mold much better than Bo would -- they can manipulate her into doing their bidding. Bo would have been much more difficult for them, and opinionated, and so they 'made' Carrie the winner.

-Darcy
 
I agree with every one who says BO should have won. I was very upset to hear Carrie's name being called as the winner. I have been a loyal fan of AI, but I am not sure after this season, I believe it is fixed. The good thing for BO is he won't be tied to the AI contracts, and he can go it alone with Clive Davis or whoever else would ike to sign him. Know this BO you will out sell in CD's & Concerts all the Carrie's of the world. BO you are all of our Vechicle. can't wait for your CD
 
It is absolutely true about Bo being the one with talent, presence, and edge. He really does not fit the AI role model--they need someone much more soft, pliable and easy to manipulate, thus Carrie. Fixed, you bet. Bo, you are magic! Being trapped in contracts destroys creativity. Can't wait for the cd. Monica
 
I agree that Bo should've won---He's got amazing stage presence and a great voice! And he gets the crowd really really wild! BO ONCE ANY OF YOUR CD'S ARE OUT I'M SURE YOUR SONGS WILL TOP THE CHARTS! GO BO!!!!
 
After American Idol Finale on Tuesday night, I went to bed sick to my stomach knowing that Bo would not be chosen as American Idol. It had nothing to do with the performances, but everything to do with the comments and attitudes of the judges, especially Randy and Simon. It felt fixed, set up, and so obviously in favor of Carrie. Why does a country crooner win?? Obviously for reasons other than talent. Now, I am so glad Bo didn't win, because now, he has a open free road to accomplish what he really does, and is not someones' puppet. Just tons of grateful fans!!
 
I think that all of the comments from Randy and Simon were leading up to a fixed ending..... They made no attempt at giving Bo his fair share of compliments...Paula new this was happening and chose to remain silent....she wanted Bo to win!!!
 
Carrie
YOU ARE A BORING PERFORMER WHO NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE RANCH!
 
Let Carrie have her "title". Bo doesn't need it! He will outsell, outplay, outsing any Idol contestant EVER! You're the man, Bo! Thanks for bringing rock back to the forefront!
 
I dont really fancy watching AI but Bo gave me a second thought. He brought life to AI unlike the previous seasons. I felt like watching BO's concert everytime he performed unlike Carrie who was just like doing an audition. No doubt the American Idol result was fixed.
 
That was the cheese-iest show ever! I turned it off half-way when it was clear Bo wasn't going to win the title (for whatever that's worth). It was so phony-baloney, I can't believe anybody would ever buy into it again - as a true contest. I won't. Think about who really won last night: Fox TV Network, with all the hype and 2 hours of Velveeta. Bo will overcome and prevail, if he gets a decent contract. Carrie - a drop in the country bucket.
 
Haha.. Carrie
YOU ARE A BORING PERFORMER WHO NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE RANCH!

That was damn funny. Im damn upset that Bo lost. But i think its ok because hes going to go places anyway.Carrie is jsut going to be like another Leanne Rimes or something and maybe get a side role in a movie like Coyote Ugly or something if shes lucky !!
 
All the above comments about Bo are right on the money, he is better off making it on his own steam, no iron clad unfair contract to hold him back. I've seen part of the contract..you can find it online. 1 part states they are not allowed to make money promoting themselves off the back of the show for x amount of months. Yeah the performers that people tuned into watch and made the producers rich & Fox loads of money on all the commercials. It's all about the station and producers making money. What AI did for Bo was more than any PR and marketing/promo company could do. There were also more commercial time than the actual program each week

On another point...Did anybody record the shows each week...If You did then watch the actual performance and then the 5 second reminder at the end. You will notice on several occasions, regardless of camera shot, that maybe where the performer was holding the microphone at the same part on each clip doesn't match up. Basically what I am saying is..IT WAS NOT LIVE. They may have been on stage singing live but the show was taped.

Example: Mr Camera pouter..Maroulis when he did Bohemian Rhapsody. On the very last note of the song on the actual performance and the 5 second end reminder clip it is different. His mike in his hand is further or closer from his face in each shot. So that tells me that each shot was done seperately and cut together in the edit room. Check it out.
 
Bo was robbed. He definitley was the star of American Idol. Simon
said months ago that Carrie would
be the winner. I believe it was
planned long ago and number of votes dinot matter.
 
I am really upset after reading a lot of these posts. I too was really upset & surprised when Bo did not win. I believe Bo had the bigger fan following. I know Simon Cowell is confident, but I thought he was way too confident and sure of himself when he told Ryan Carrie was going to win when he interviewed him in his dressing room an hour before the results. I believe something is going on and AI utimently makes the last call on who they want to win. I feel Bo was robbed and so was his fans. What a waste of time.
 
I LOVE BO and it really made this season to see him go to the finals.
I am sorry on one hand that he didn't win, but on the other hand I am almost glad he came in second this way he will be free to do what he really wants to do after the Idol's tour I mean. I really cannot see him up there spouting all the drivel(crappy ass songs) they would have thrown at him. He is much better off staying true to his musical roots. He is the bomb. And I can tell you this we have not heard the last from him. Hopefully he will be like Clay Akin and do 1000 times better than Rueben.
 
Can Bo sing while not running around the stage holding a microphone stand? What is it with him and the stand? Was he auditioning for Aerosmith?
 
You know, everyone can post a grand conspiracy theory but I think there is one factual piece of evidence that shows Carrie was going to be the winner:

The original songs that were given to Bo and Carrie to perform on Tuesday's show catered to Carrie's strengths and kept away from Bo's. Bo can perform real well, but when you hear a Ballad, most times you think of a woman.... Even the lyrics were more feminine...

Bo, a country rocker, can sing... but singing a effeminate ballad? Arranged femininely as well?
 
I believe that Carrie's winning this competion was predestined months ago. Did anyone notice how absolutely perfect she looked for her audition? Her hair, make-up...very professional and considering she drove 71/2 hours to get to the competion, quite remarkable indeed. I also recall Simon making the comment at the audition that she was going to be the next AI. Regardless of how she performed during this season, there were very few negative comments from the judges (though there were a couple of zingers just to make the judging appear fair and balanced). To me, she seemed completely indifferent to whatever was said -- good or bad. Was this confidence in her ability or confidence in the outcome? Who knows. But no doubt, she appealed to the patriotic, god-fearing, red-state majority.

Go Bo.
 
I am a 50 year old mother who lived through the 60's and was thrilled to see Bo bring Rock back to the forefront. He was the bright and shining light of the show and Carrie was the pre-determined darling. That's sickening - and fine. We can thank AI for giving Bo the platform to be discovered. We can thank them for being horses asses for wanting the lifeless - and selfish Carrie (did you see her grab for the new car keys and say to Ryan "I'll take both of them.")
Bo is a star - a gentleman - he'll continue to rock America - I bet AI put out the rap sheet on him in an attempt to get America to vote against him. It didn't work. The on-line vote on MSNBC the day of the final show gave Bo 53% of the votes. Bo - we love you and support you all the way. Now go record your heart out and we'll buy your CD's.
 
I believe Bo should have won in AI but Simon Cowell really did his thing. I watched his interview with Oprah and seen how he campaigned for Carrie Underwood. And if anyone noticed, Simon's comment on Bo's last performance (last night of the competition; that it's been a pleasure having Bo on the show) already said it: Even before the votes were cast, they already knew who would win coz it's already been fixed. And it's true, AI didn't want Bo to win cause they won't be able to manipulate him.
 
Order Bo's new CD single with Vehicle and Heaven at Barnes and Noble or Amazon! Pre-selling - let's get it to Platinum!

Some thoughts about AI - maybe they axed Constantine because they perceived him to be a real threat to Carrie - they didn't think Bo was a threat at that time - but Bo perservered.

Maybe Simon really liked Bo and wanted he and Carrie to be the top 2 - knowing that Bo would be better with Clive Davis. Is that insane?

I was disappointed with Randy that he gave Carrie a standing O when - was it me or did she not sing one note in tune the final night???
 
The voting seems fixed to me. I will not watch the show anymore and be dupped into thinking my vote actually counts.
 
It is like Bo said, "It's all good." He played out his dream on stage, got a car and is in the studio recording now. He had us all sitting on the edge of our seats waiting to hear what he would sing or say next. He and Carrie have probably formed a good friendship lets not stain it with all of this negative bashing. It's just a title. I am sure it means a lot to Carrie let her enjoy it. Bo is fine with it, and we should be too. We cant change it, nor would we want to. I want to hear Bo the way he was on the show, not the Bo that they would have made had he taken the title. Even if it is rigged SO WHAT, look what a guy from a small town in Alabama did. Great job Bo!!
 
I'm glad Bo got what he did -- he's now free to have a great career. But, I'm disgusted to know that AI truly is fixed. Too much didn't add up or make sense this season, and Tuesday's show was like watching a joke. Suddnely Randy and Simon turned on Bo and it was like "Carrie, Carrie". It as insane because it was so unlike them. Well, only Simon was in love with her all the time.

I just want a fair show. Not happening with AI.
 
They were supposed to sing 2 original songs. Bo did. Carrie did not. "Angels Brought Me Here" Was ORIGINALLY sung by Guy Sebastian, who, for those who don't know, won AUSTRALIAN Idol 2 years ago, give or take. Is this cheating? I think it is.
 
I'd like to say that the right person won! No no listen! Competitions are not for the good hearted like Bo - he is the one with the true soul! I loved his courage and he is genuine! He has experience & a band (while Carrie was studying????- hello!) I think that Bo will get further in life as an "American Idol title"
 
In my eye's Bo is the winner! He's gorgeous, sexy, great stage presence and that voice, wow!

Carrie on the other hand, she looks like she just stepped off the Dentist chair. She can't dance and she has no passion when she sings. America, sorry you got it wrong, just like Australia did!

Speaking of Australia, why did Carrie rip us off? She sang our winning song "Angels Brought Me Here" why? Couldn't she think of anything else to sing. Carrie should have stayed true to her original style and sang country songs all the way through the comp and see if she'd win then, I think not!

I LOVE YOU BO, MARRY ME!!!
 
America got it wrong last year as well with Fantasia being crowned the winner, I cringe whenever I hear her sing.
I have to admit the 'talent' on series 4 was outstanding, but there was something about Bo from his very first audition, maybe it was those smouldering eyes, not to mention the most incredible and original 'rock' voice in a very very long time. I fell in love with the whole package of BO BICE on day 1 and whilst i am thoroughly disappointed in Bo not winning, like a lot of people I totally agree 100% that he will do much much better than Carrie will and he wont be subject to having to be 'moulded' into something he isnt. I don't believe Carrie will be able to cross over into the 'pop genre' - as the saying goes... 'She's a little bit TO MUCH country and BO IS TOTALLY ROCK AND ROLL. With the big smile and miss goody 2shoes looks, something is wrong with that picture.
As Rosalin said, Australia didnt get it right in Series 2, Casey (an overweight chain smoking punk -great model for kids) over that gorgeous little Italian spunk bubble Anthony - give me a break. As for all the Carrie fans INSISTING she should release ABMH -no way! The song belongs to our first Idol Guy Sebastian and never was an 'original' for Carrie as some people tried to make out, so keep your grubby hands off it.
Oh and Ros,,, over my dead body :)
Thank you for our very own original Bo Bice CD too - love it now hurry up and burn the extra songs - I can never get enough of Bo.
 
Yeah, all right, the burner's taking too long!

I'm glad you and I are the only people in the whole world who has a Bo Bice CD Album, how good is that?

Oh back at you Kaz, ..... that can be arranged! :)
 
*sniff*
Bo Is the bomb.
Seriously.
Carrie Is a RIPOFFFFFFF

Carrie, go die in the hole that you sprang out of, we don't need you. We have Bo.

GO BO!
Carrie shouldn't release ABMH as a single....she shouldn't even have won! SHE bloody cheated!

I would marry bo, but that would be....kind of illegal. Lolz
 
not a nice comment at all and i am embarressed that you are from Oz.
to wish Carrie to do what you said is purely disgusting.
and dont get your knickers in a knot because she is not releasing ABMH as a single - not in the first instance anyway - so settle down for goodness sake
 
Is it just me or did anyone else see Ryan Seacrest sitting in for Regis on Regis and Kelly last week?

He referenced Bo Bice 7 times in five minutes and then made a big play to go on and on about some girl that he had his picture made with that was a Bice fan. He concluded why Bo didn't win as the fans are screaming at him constantly "Why didn't BO WIN?!?!"... "YOU DIDN'T VOTE!" he replies.

Yeah tell that Ryan, to your 13 year old girlfriends who idolize CarrieOKIE. We voted; your producers just decided not to count it, 12 weeks prior!

I also loved the part how he followed up that it didn't matter what people thought about the show he is always told that this is the first time that all the family has gathered around the tv to watch something together.

I almost choked up... then I remembered my WIRELESS BILL.

I'm 42 years old and I can tell you life and business... let ALONE television is NOT fair. Did anyone see the movie "Game Show?" If not, you need to rent it. It will be enlightening for you. This is a farce. The producers have classified the show as an entertainment program much like wrestling or Miss Cleo's Psychic line. It's not to be taken seriously and their writer's can therefore predict ANY outcome with no legal dispute. I personally think Cingular has the most to lose if someone would blow this wide open. They get people to TEXT in votes that DON'T count. And as a CINGULAR customer I WANT to SEE PROOF that these votes were tallied! Meanwhile Cingular and Fox are laughing all the way to the bank.

Well, Go Bo, we love you down here in Montgomery, AL. You're so much more talented and have more drive and stamina than some Britney/Faith Hill wanna be. Just what we need another airhead blonde singing on the radio. (And I'm an airhead blonde... ha... so no predjudice here!)

And I'm a country fan. They are going to laugh her out of Nashville. First of all they don't like American Idol... they have Nashville Star. She should have gone to that show first.

I know it's just a title and Bo's better off without it but we got into it and we paid MONEY and time and stress for him to win it. We didn't realize this whole thing was a SCAM!

Are you Pissed? Don't WATCH next year. I won't be. I'm also boycotting Cingular. They are another real money maker in all of this fiasco.

I will however be buying Bo's cds with the money that I save not having a Cingular account! :)
 
Bo Bice is phenomenal!!!Idol will never find anyone as sensational as him.
I do think it is rigged.
Bo has a great deal of integrity,talent,and sincerity.Bo is obviously devastatingly handsome,charming,and has strength of character,and creativity.
I believe he is genuine.Carrie,tho sweet,needs guidance and lacks the stage presence and professional and creative ability.
I don't want to offend anyone,but america couldn't choose the right president(twice) so I figured something like this could occur.
Bo,I,like your many fans,am so proud of you!
Your talent and strength of character are why big name successes are joining with you.People like Clive Davis,Richie Sambora and others.
I know that,you could never be anything but what you are,who you are.
Stay the way you are. No doubt you will only improve with time.Other "big names" will be drawn to you.
You are one of the good guys/ as good as they come.
Bo I look forward to every step and
wait in anticipation as God blesses you and yours,therefore,all of us in the process.It is truly God's timing in this.The best is yet to come.
You and Melanie take care of each other .
God bless you.
Life is a gift as you know .It's refreshing to see you embracing it as I do.
Bofan4life
 
Bo Bice is phenomenal!!!Idol will never find anyone as sensational as him.
I do think it is rigged.
Bo has a great deal of integrity,talent,and sincerity.Bo is obviously devastatingly handsome,charming,and has strength of character,and creativity.
I believe he is genuine.Carrie,tho sweet,needs guidance and lacks the stage presence and professional and creative ability.
I don't want to offend anyone,but america couldn't choose the right president(twice) so I figured something like this could occur.
Bo,I,like your many fans,am so proud of you!
Your talent and strength of character are why big name successes are joining with you.People like Clive Davis,Richie Sambora and others.
I know that,you could never be anything but what you are,who you are.
Stay the way you are. No doubt you will only improve with time.Other "big names" will be drawn to you.
You are one of the good guys/ as good as they come.
Bo I look forward to every step and
wait in anticipation as God blesses you and yours,therefore,all of us in the process.It is truly God's timing in this.The best is yet to come.
You and Melanie take care of each other .
God bless you.
Life is a gift as you know .It's refreshing to see you embracing it as I do.
Bofan4life
 
Bo Bice is phenomenal!!!Idol will never find anyone as sensational as him.
I do think it is rigged.
Bo has a great deal of integrity,talent,and sincerity.Bo is obviously devastatingly handsome,charming,and has strength of character,and creativity.
I believe he is genuine.Carrie,tho sweet,needs guidance and lacks the stage presence and professional and creative ability.
I don't want to offend anyone,but america couldn't choose the right president(twice) so I figured something like this could occur.
Bo,I,like your many fans,am so proud of you!
Your talent and strength of character are why big name successes are joining with you.People like Clive Davis,Richie Sambora and others.
I know that,you could never be anything but what you are,who you are.
Stay the way you are. No doubt you will only improve with time.Other "big names" will be drawn to you.
You are one of the good guys/ as good as they come.
Bo I look forward to every step and
wait in anticipation as God blesses you and yours,therefore,all of us in the process.It is truly God's timing in this.The best is yet to come.
You and Melanie take care of each other .
God bless you.
Life is a gift as you know .It's refreshing to see you embracing it as I do.
Bofan4life
 
Glad to see that Bo is no puppet.He has grand ideas of his own and tho the people he works with are professional,he will have a great deal of input and will be respected in the field.
 
Bo is the hottest person in this world. I hope he never cuts his beautiful hair. Everyone should be so lucky to have heard Bo sing. He is a natural. GO GORGEOUS BO BICE!!!!
 
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